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		<title>By: working girl</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/are-you-hiring-clowns/#comment-1981</link>
		<dc:creator>working girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose oddball questions can lead to an interesting discussion and some bonding so I&#039;m not completely against and wouldn&#039;t necessarily object to such questions in an interview.  But I also think we&#039;re hiring clowns all the time because this process focuses on the wrong stuff.  Like buying a house based on the curtains instead of the foundation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose oddball questions can lead to an interesting discussion and some bonding so I&#8217;m not completely against and wouldn&#8217;t necessarily object to such questions in an interview.  But I also think we&#8217;re hiring clowns all the time because this process focuses on the wrong stuff.  Like buying a house based on the curtains instead of the foundation.</p>
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		<title>By: &#124; PseudoHR</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/are-you-hiring-clowns/#comment-1980</link>
		<dc:creator>&#124; PseudoHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:58:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] More frightening than Evil HR Lady Firing with Delay, Lance Haun conjures nightmares with Hiring Clowns. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] More frightening than Evil HR Lady Firing with Delay, Lance Haun conjures nightmares with Hiring Clowns. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Young</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/are-you-hiring-clowns/#comment-1979</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 01:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting suggestions for why these silly hiring practices perpetuate themselves, Lance!

I&#039;ve shared your thought with my readers in my Rainmaker &#039;Fab Five&#039; blog picks of the week (found here: http://www.maximizepossibility.com/employee_retention/2009/12/the-rainmaker-fab-five-blog-picks-of-the-week-1.html) to help them remove any unnecessary hoops from their hiring process.

Be well!

- Chris

BTW - love your new blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting suggestions for why these silly hiring practices perpetuate themselves, Lance!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve shared your thought with my readers in my Rainmaker &#8216;Fab Five&#8217; blog picks of the week (found here: <a href="http://www.maximizepossibility.com/employee_retention/2009/12/the-rainmaker-fab-five-blog-picks-of-the-week-1.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.maximizepossibility.com/employee_retention/2009/12/the-rainmaker-fab-five-blog-picks-of-the-week-1.html</a>) to help them remove any unnecessary hoops from their hiring process.</p>
<p>Be well!</p>
<p>- Chris</p>
<p>BTW &#8211; love your new blog!</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/are-you-hiring-clowns/#comment-1978</link>
		<dc:creator>Ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I completely agree, the main reason being that a real solution cannot be given, because the problem is not real. Real problems create motivations for a solution, and those motivations are key in defining the correct solution. Resource constraints are also primary shapers of solutions. I don&#039;t care how mundane a problem is: if you can&#039;t tell me what motivation I have to solve it or what my resource constraints are, my solution will be to ignore it.

The one thing I hear about this question is that it&#039;s not really about problem solving; that &quot;companies ask it just to learn about you based on how you respond.&quot; Well, my natural response would be to refuse to engage the question. If they are really happy just to learn that, fine. But I doubt that - I think they want to evaluate a response and would be annoyed not to get one.

I&#039;ve read that Google used to ask these but no longer does - I think it&#039;s falling out of favor, thankfully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I completely agree, the main reason being that a real solution cannot be given, because the problem is not real. Real problems create motivations for a solution, and those motivations are key in defining the correct solution. Resource constraints are also primary shapers of solutions. I don&#8217;t care how mundane a problem is: if you can&#8217;t tell me what motivation I have to solve it or what my resource constraints are, my solution will be to ignore it.</p>
<p>The one thing I hear about this question is that it&#8217;s not really about problem solving; that &#8220;companies ask it just to learn about you based on how you respond.&#8221; Well, my natural response would be to refuse to engage the question. If they are really happy just to learn that, fine. But I doubt that &#8211; I think they want to evaluate a response and would be annoyed not to get one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve read that Google used to ask these but no longer does &#8211; I think it&#8217;s falling out of favor, thankfully.</p>
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		<title>By: Alconcalcia</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/are-you-hiring-clowns/#comment-1977</link>
		<dc:creator>Alconcalcia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t forget, candidates can give silly answers too :-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNIaXpJNiQg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t forget, candidates can give silly answers too <img src='http://cdn.lancehaun.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://lancehaun.com/are-you-hiring-clowns/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/SNIaXpJNiQg/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: Tim Krauss</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/are-you-hiring-clowns/#comment-1976</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Krauss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree for sure. I wonder if HR managers asked questions with common sense like-

&quot;Blank&quot; is a requirement to work here, how will you be able to fit this requirement if we did hire you?

Give me an example of a difficult situation you had at a previous employer and how you handled that. What was the result?

Asking good logical questions will help you more than the circus stuff. I agree with TlColson &quot;old fashioned is the best way&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree for sure. I wonder if HR managers asked questions with common sense like-</p>
<p>&#8220;Blank&#8221; is a requirement to work here, how will you be able to fit this requirement if we did hire you?</p>
<p>Give me an example of a difficult situation you had at a previous employer and how you handled that. What was the result?</p>
<p>Asking good logical questions will help you more than the circus stuff. I agree with TlColson &#8220;old fashioned is the best way&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle Rafter</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/are-you-hiring-clowns/#comment-1975</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle Rafter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 18:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Exceptional post Lance.

M</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exceptional post Lance.</p>
<p>M</p>
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		<title>By: tlcolson</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/are-you-hiring-clowns/#comment-1974</link>
		<dc:creator>tlcolson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been in light industrial the last few years, and another culture entrenched retail environment before that, I see the hazing more than anything else.

&quot;Well we did it, so should they if they are worth it&quot;

But as technology advances and we need workers with more skills than stamina and a strong back, those candidates are less likely to tolerate the behavior from the hiring process.

In fact, during the hiring process at the big orange box, I quipped that I wondered if I was applying to Harvard or HD. And no, their process didn&#039;t net the best in class, they netted the most patient, or most desperate.

If you are a sought after employer, or the compensation is head and shoulders above the rest, great, continue the circus. But those companies had best find ways to maintain that status, because candidates won&#039;t be willing to tolerate the treatment otherwise.

I&#039;d rather get good people the old fashioned way:
good recruiting, and good luck.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been in light industrial the last few years, and another culture entrenched retail environment before that, I see the hazing more than anything else.</p>
<p>&#8220;Well we did it, so should they if they are worth it&#8221;</p>
<p>But as technology advances and we need workers with more skills than stamina and a strong back, those candidates are less likely to tolerate the behavior from the hiring process.</p>
<p>In fact, during the hiring process at the big orange box, I quipped that I wondered if I was applying to Harvard or HD. And no, their process didn&#8217;t net the best in class, they netted the most patient, or most desperate.</p>
<p>If you are a sought after employer, or the compensation is head and shoulders above the rest, great, continue the circus. But those companies had best find ways to maintain that status, because candidates won&#8217;t be willing to tolerate the treatment otherwise.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather get good people the old fashioned way:<br />
good recruiting, and good luck.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Hyland</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/are-you-hiring-clowns/#comment-1973</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Hyland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2009 17:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In a phrase: epic failure.

You&#039;re right. This is asking questions for the sake of asking questions.

To point 1: I think this ties in with Point 3, to which I will comment shortly...
To point 2: Doesn&#039;t everyone? Or rather, don&#039;t these orgs&#039; Marketing folks make them believe they are?
To point 3: Am I applying for a job, or a fraternity? The reason why this ties into point 1: people hire people like themselves. If it&#039;s a hazing culture, you&#039;re going to hire people who like the verbal ribbing. This perpetuates an illusion of success while also keeping the hazing as part of the status quo.

Great thoughts, Lance. Thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a phrase: epic failure.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right. This is asking questions for the sake of asking questions.</p>
<p>To point 1: I think this ties in with Point 3, to which I will comment shortly&#8230;<br />
To point 2: Doesn&#8217;t everyone? Or rather, don&#8217;t these orgs&#8217; Marketing folks make them believe they are?<br />
To point 3: Am I applying for a job, or a fraternity? The reason why this ties into point 1: people hire people like themselves. If it&#8217;s a hazing culture, you&#8217;re going to hire people who like the verbal ribbing. This perpetuates an illusion of success while also keeping the hazing as part of the status quo.</p>
<p>Great thoughts, Lance. Thanks for sharing!</p>
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