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		<title>By: Lance Haun</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/stay-home-youre-really-not-that-important/#comment-1028</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance Haun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 17:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Totally Consumed - If the feeling is &quot;dedicated employees take risks and try to come in while lazy employees use the â€œoptionalâ€ day to avoid deadlines and responsibilities&quot; then the solution seems pretty evident:

What are you doing with the lazy employees the other 259 working days?

Lazy employees abuse vacation, sick, FMLA, OFLA and disability benefits as well but nobody suggests getting rid of those as a reasonable solution. I think of optional days along the same lines. What do you do with lazy employees that abuse these other policies? People that abuse optional days should be treated the same. Managing up or out lazy employees during the year would be optimal. The best employees should not feel like they have to &quot;keep up appearances&quot; and take unnecessary risks to prove to management that they are dedicated. Their work the rest of the year should be sufficient.

As for necessary employees, it depends on your facility and customer needs really. The management should figure out what they would need in order to operate under inclement weather where employees and customers might be limited. Most of the time though, operating under inclement conditions is a short term status. Just because all we need at our facility during inclement weather is security personnel doesn&#039;t make everyone else expendable. Ultimately, somebody has to make money and make products to keep those security people employed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Totally Consumed &#8211; If the feeling is &#8220;dedicated employees take risks and try to come in while lazy employees use the â€œoptionalâ€ day to avoid deadlines and responsibilities&#8221; then the solution seems pretty evident:</p>
<p>What are you doing with the lazy employees the other 259 working days?</p>
<p>Lazy employees abuse vacation, sick, FMLA, OFLA and disability benefits as well but nobody suggests getting rid of those as a reasonable solution. I think of optional days along the same lines. What do you do with lazy employees that abuse these other policies? People that abuse optional days should be treated the same. Managing up or out lazy employees during the year would be optimal. The best employees should not feel like they have to &#8220;keep up appearances&#8221; and take unnecessary risks to prove to management that they are dedicated. Their work the rest of the year should be sufficient.</p>
<p>As for necessary employees, it depends on your facility and customer needs really. The management should figure out what they would need in order to operate under inclement weather where employees and customers might be limited. Most of the time though, operating under inclement conditions is a short term status. Just because all we need at our facility during inclement weather is security personnel doesn&#8217;t make everyone else expendable. Ultimately, somebody has to make money and make products to keep those security people employed.</p>
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		<title>By: Totally Consumed</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/stay-home-youre-really-not-that-important/#comment-1027</link>
		<dc:creator>Totally Consumed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 16:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of real-life scenarios/questions that have come past my desk as a result of &quot;optional&quot; work days:

1) people who live down the block, with chains and four wheel-drive say it&#039;s &quot;too dangerous&quot; to come into work; while those who live four towns away and have cars with bald tires and no four-wheel drive come in and say the &quot;roads are fine&quot;.

2) Who decides what jobs are &quot;important&quot;?  If my job isn&#039;t &quot;important&quot; enough to need to come to work during bad weather, should I be surprised if I&#039;m on the top of the next layoff list?

In my experience, when work attendance is &quot;optional&quot; dedicated employees take risks and try to come in while lazy employees use the &quot;optional&quot; day to avoid deadlines and responsibilities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of real-life scenarios/questions that have come past my desk as a result of &#8220;optional&#8221; work days:</p>
<p>1) people who live down the block, with chains and four wheel-drive say it&#8217;s &#8220;too dangerous&#8221; to come into work; while those who live four towns away and have cars with bald tires and no four-wheel drive come in and say the &#8220;roads are fine&#8221;.</p>
<p>2) Who decides what jobs are &#8220;important&#8221;?  If my job isn&#8217;t &#8220;important&#8221; enough to need to come to work during bad weather, should I be surprised if I&#8217;m on the top of the next layoff list?</p>
<p>In my experience, when work attendance is &#8220;optional&#8221; dedicated employees take risks and try to come in while lazy employees use the &#8220;optional&#8221; day to avoid deadlines and responsibilities.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Kreutz</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/stay-home-youre-really-not-that-important/#comment-1030</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Kreutz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Dec 2008 20:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We were discussing how best to communicate weather related closures/delays to our employees in case we ever need to. Facebook and twitter came up as good options. I work for a tech company and most of our employees are active social media users. The times of notifying the local radio station are coming to an end.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We were discussing how best to communicate weather related closures/delays to our employees in case we ever need to. Facebook and twitter came up as good options. I work for a tech company and most of our employees are active social media users. The times of notifying the local radio station are coming to an end.</p>
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		<title>By: In Portland, the big story is snow &#171; WordCount - Freelancing in the digital age</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/stay-home-youre-really-not-that-important/#comment-1020</link>
		<dc:creator>In Portland, the big story is snow &#171; WordCount - Freelancing in the digital age</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 22:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] for the holiday. Unless you&#8217;re a firefighter or bus driver, Portland-based YourHRGuy.com says you really shouldn&#8217;t be driving to work  in these conditions anyway, especially without [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] for the holiday. Unless you&#8217;re a firefighter or bus driver, Portland-based YourHRGuy.com says you really shouldn&#8217;t be driving to work  in these conditions anyway, especially without [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn Barnes / HR Wench</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/stay-home-youre-really-not-that-important/#comment-1024</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenn Barnes / HR Wench</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:38:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is about 8 or 9 inches of snow at my house across the river from you right now...with about an inch of ice on top of it.  I ain&#039;t goin nowheres, yo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is about 8 or 9 inches of snow at my house across the river from you right now&#8230;with about an inch of ice on top of it.  I ain&#8217;t goin nowheres, yo!</p>
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		<title>By: RMSJr.SPHR</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/stay-home-youre-really-not-that-important/#comment-1025</link>
		<dc:creator>RMSJr.SPHR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in Maine, getting to work against all weather odds is a badge of honor. That being said, our policy is, get to work when you feel safe doing so. If you need to be late tending to weather related urgencies, call us to let us know so we won&#039;t worry about you being in a ditch somewhere or worse.  Attendance policy rules default into no fault for the day.

Our mass transit options are sketchy to nonexistent. Many production workers drive 4x4 trucks. Heck, a couple of them even snowplow for the extra cash. AWD vehicles for the rest of us is very common.

The HR Guy, that&#039;s me lives nearly furthest out. Two other employees live deeper into the woods than I do, but they have quicker access to turnpike. That being said, I still nearly beat my boss in this morning. That after getting up at 4 AM to snowblow the driveway.

Bottom Line - we treat our loyal &amp; dedicated employees like the adults they are. In turn, we have exceptionally reliable attendance.

Winter here in Maine is about ten months long, summer is the day we play baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in Maine, getting to work against all weather odds is a badge of honor. That being said, our policy is, get to work when you feel safe doing so. If you need to be late tending to weather related urgencies, call us to let us know so we won&#8217;t worry about you being in a ditch somewhere or worse.  Attendance policy rules default into no fault for the day.</p>
<p>Our mass transit options are sketchy to nonexistent. Many production workers drive 4&#215;4 trucks. Heck, a couple of them even snowplow for the extra cash. AWD vehicles for the rest of us is very common.</p>
<p>The HR Guy, that&#8217;s me lives nearly furthest out. Two other employees live deeper into the woods than I do, but they have quicker access to turnpike. That being said, I still nearly beat my boss in this morning. That after getting up at 4 AM to snowblow the driveway.</p>
<p>Bottom Line &#8211; we treat our loyal &amp; dedicated employees like the adults they are. In turn, we have exceptionally reliable attendance.</p>
<p>Winter here in Maine is about ten months long, summer is the day we play baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris - Manager's Sandbox</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/stay-home-youre-really-not-that-important/#comment-1026</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris - Manager's Sandbox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:43:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lance, interesting juxtapose to this email on Totally Consumed (http://totallyconsumed.blogspot.com/2008/12/optional-snow-days-work-fail.html) which states that giving employees the option just doesn&#039;t work. I tend to agree with your line of thinking more than the TC article.

&#039;What I find most amazing was how many emails were going back and forth on an HR list-server I belong to about whether or not to cancel production plants in RI. People were like, &quot;We&#039;re closing at 4 today to let our workers get home safe.&quot; Oh really? The storm gets heavy at 2 and plows won&#039;t do much until 6 or 7 - how does that help?

People (employers... HR, specifically) need to just do the right thing and close down plants when the whether is dangerous. A dead or critically injured work is far less productive than one who misses a day of work due to a snow storm!

- Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lance, interesting juxtapose to this email on Totally Consumed (<a href="http://totallyconsumed.blogspot.com/2008/12/optional-snow-days-work-fail.html" rel="nofollow">http://totallyconsumed.blogspot.com/2008/12/optional-snow-days-work-fail.html</a>) which states that giving employees the option just doesn&#8217;t work. I tend to agree with your line of thinking more than the TC article.</p>
<p>&#8216;What I find most amazing was how many emails were going back and forth on an HR list-server I belong to about whether or not to cancel production plants in RI. People were like, &#8220;We&#8217;re closing at 4 today to let our workers get home safe.&#8221; Oh really? The storm gets heavy at 2 and plows won&#8217;t do much until 6 or 7 &#8211; how does that help?</p>
<p>People (employers&#8230; HR, specifically) need to just do the right thing and close down plants when the whether is dangerous. A dead or critically injured work is far less productive than one who misses a day of work due to a snow storm!</p>
<p>- Chris</p>
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		<title>By: John Cerasani</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/stay-home-youre-really-not-that-important/#comment-1029</link>
		<dc:creator>John Cerasani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 16:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Article.. And True!   If everyone has a lap top or can access work email through their home computer, this is a no brainer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article.. And True!   If everyone has a lap top or can access work email through their home computer, this is a no brainer.</p>
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		<title>By: Milena Thomas</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/stay-home-youre-really-not-that-important/#comment-1023</link>
		<dc:creator>Milena Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay - I so wish I ever worked at a company that had such a policy.  But, the one day I did go to work and my car broke down because of the snow, my boss bought me a new car - so, it ended up working in my favor! : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay &#8211; I so wish I ever worked at a company that had such a policy.  But, the one day I did go to work and my car broke down because of the snow, my boss bought me a new car &#8211; so, it ended up working in my favor! : )</p>
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		<title>By: Hayli @ RiseSmart</title>
		<link>http://lancehaun.com/stay-home-youre-really-not-that-important/#comment-1022</link>
		<dc:creator>Hayli @ RiseSmart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I totally agree, especially about the hot chocolate part. In fact, I&#039;m buying hot chocolate today. HR Guy - doing his part to boost the economy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I totally agree, especially about the hot chocolate part. In fact, I&#8217;m buying hot chocolate today. HR Guy &#8211; doing his part to boost the economy.</p>
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