Comments on: Why I STILL Don't Like Job Hoppers http://lancehaun.com/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/ Life between the brackets Wed, 08 Feb 2012 14:42:02 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Compte http://lancehaun.com/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-207 Compte Wed, 12 May 2010 22:32:57 +0000 http://www.yourhrguy.com/2006/07/27/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-207 Yep, overt greed and exploitation are no way to retain workers. You'd think the university educated would understand this, the smartest employer I worked for was for a construction company, he ruled with an iron fist but at the same time was willing to help out his employees and made them feel human.. Yep, overt greed and exploitation are no way to retain workers. You’d think the university educated would understand this, the smartest employer I worked for was for a construction company, he ruled with an iron fist but at the same time was willing to help out his employees and made them feel human..

]]> By: me http://lancehaun.com/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-206 me Sun, 13 Dec 2009 03:12:07 +0000 http://www.yourhrguy.com/2006/07/27/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-206 I fit the job hopper profile and I don't feel good about it. I've had 8 jobs in 15 years. I'm not so proud about that but I keep putting my self in positions that aren't truly suited to me. My consistent mistakes are in taking jobs more the money with little regard for their proximity to the geographic centers of my life, family, friends, and hobbies, and taking positions that don't truly fit my personality such as outgoing roles in sales. The author of this post is on the mark in his assessment I'd say. However, as some of the comment demonstrate, there are external factors that can force the job hopper profile on you, such as racism. But in general, if you do as good a job of interviewing the company as they do in interviewing you and do critical self assessments about what roles suit you, you might end up with a couple of short tenures at jobs but in general you shouldn't end up labeled a job hopper. That being said, I look at this as much more of a personal problem than a professional problem because I have never had a problem finding a new job. I have a working theory that if you follow one simple rule, never quit a job before you have formally accepted another job offer, job hopping is a self correcting problem. I fit the job hopper profile and I don’t feel good about it. I’ve had 8 jobs in 15 years. I’m not so proud about that but I keep putting my self in positions that aren’t truly suited to me. My consistent mistakes are in taking jobs more the money with little regard for their proximity to the geographic centers of my life, family, friends, and hobbies, and taking positions that don’t truly fit my personality such as outgoing roles in sales. The author of this post is on the mark in his assessment I’d say. However, as some of the comment demonstrate, there are external factors that can force the job hopper profile on you, such as racism. But in general, if you do as good a job of interviewing the company as they do in interviewing you and do critical self assessments about what roles suit you, you might end up with a couple of short tenures at jobs but in general you shouldn’t end up labeled a job hopper. That being said, I look at this as much more of a personal problem than a professional problem because I have never had a problem finding a new job. I have a working theory that if you follow one simple rule, never quit a job before you have formally accepted another job offer, job hopping is a self correcting problem.

]]> By: Carky http://lancehaun.com/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-204 Carky Wed, 30 Sep 2009 04:23:18 +0000 http://www.yourhrguy.com/2006/07/27/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-204 Wow, some great responses on here, I'm quite impressed. Perhaps someone has been job-hopping because they have not found a position they truly enjoy working at. And you're going to punish them by not giving them a chance at your company? What a load of BS. I'm 23 and have been through countless jobs since before high school even, none lasting over a year. And why not? I'm young, I'm a smart guy, and I'm willing to work hard, I just haven't found the right fit for me. HR people, take heed: Think twice before you toss that resume because the applicant has been "job-hopping" you might be throwing away a winner. Wow, some great responses on here, I’m quite impressed.

Perhaps someone has been job-hopping because they have not found a position they truly enjoy working at. And you’re going to punish them by not giving them a chance at your company? What a load of BS. I’m 23 and have been through countless jobs since before high school even, none lasting over a year. And why not? I’m young, I’m a smart guy, and I’m willing to work hard, I just haven’t found the right fit for me.

HR people, take heed: Think twice before you toss that resume because the applicant has been “job-hopping” you might be throwing away a winner.

]]> By: Moe http://lancehaun.com/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-205 Moe Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:45:54 +0000 http://www.yourhrguy.com/2006/07/27/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-205 Lance, you are the kind of people who think they are too smart for the rest for us. Some people have slavery in their genes and maybe thats just your kind of people. People who would smile at every abuse, every mundane task, every discrimination. People who would bend over backwards and let you have fun. Stop being a moron and think abotu this .. If an employee is HAPPY.. Why would he leave? or if thats too much for your peanut size brain to grasp.. Why should a person stay at a job thats making him miserable? Why should a person work 65 hours and get paid for 40, and still ramain bent over? Go buy some lube and relieve yourself. Lance, you are the kind of people who think they are too smart for the rest for us. Some people have slavery in their genes and maybe thats just your kind of people. People who would smile at every abuse, every mundane task, every discrimination. People who would bend over backwards and let you have fun. Stop being a moron and think abotu this .. If an employee is HAPPY.. Why would he leave? or if thats too much for your peanut size brain to grasp.. Why should a person stay at a job thats making him miserable? Why should a person work 65 hours and get paid for 40, and still ramain bent over? Go buy some lube and relieve yourself.

]]> By: Harof http://lancehaun.com/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-202 Harof Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:35:33 +0000 http://www.yourhrguy.com/2006/07/27/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-202 Hey HR Moron, I forgot to mention that if you want to retain an employee then you should offer them what the executives get like a bonus regardless if they quit a few weeks after being hired, or a couple million dollars even if the company stocks go down, that should keep them working don't you think jackass. Hey HR Moron, I forgot to mention that if you want to retain an employee then you should offer them what the executives get like a bonus regardless if they quit a few weeks after being hired, or a couple million dollars even if the company stocks go down, that should keep them working don’t you think jackass.

]]> By: Harof http://lancehaun.com/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-203 Harof Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:32:30 +0000 http://www.yourhrguy.com/2006/07/27/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-203 I don't see the point of having an HR department, seriously, there are companies that outsource their work and do a much better job. I find it so funny when I see an HR Manager or Director with just a person working under them, they are all idiots. Let me tell you something about job hoppers as somebody that has worked in the same company for 5 years, I was patient waiting for a promotion or a good raise, and while I waited without receiving anything, the executives got promoted up to 3 times within 5 months, I know every higher level they were offered came with a good pay increase, yet the little guys get nothing for one or two years and then they get a miserable 3% or a $1/hr increase after all their hard work. I saw over 40% of the company leave, of course they were the people with the lower level jobs, and they lasted maybe 3 months, I am sure they are doing better, sometimes you have to hop a couple times before making it happen, and I know that this HR person that wrote this article recruits plenty of job hoppers because he is an idiot that doesn't know how to screen a career minded person, he is just looking forward to kissing the CEO's ass and hire somebody to join them in disgust. I don’t see the point of having an HR department, seriously, there are companies that outsource their work and do a much better job. I find it so funny when I see an HR Manager or Director with just a person working under them, they are all idiots. Let me tell you something about job hoppers as somebody that has worked in the same company for 5 years, I was patient waiting for a promotion or a good raise, and while I waited without receiving anything, the executives got promoted up to 3 times within 5 months, I know every higher level they were offered came with a good pay increase, yet the little guys get nothing for one or two years and then they get a miserable 3% or a $1/hr increase after all their hard work. I saw over 40% of the company leave, of course they were the people with the lower level jobs, and they lasted maybe 3 months, I am sure they are doing better, sometimes you have to hop a couple times before making it happen, and I know that this HR person that wrote this article recruits plenty of job hoppers because he is an idiot that doesn’t know how to screen a career minded person, he is just looking forward to kissing the CEO’s ass and hire somebody to join them in disgust.

]]> By: Guy Farmer http://lancehaun.com/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-201 Guy Farmer Wed, 22 Jul 2009 07:20:11 +0000 http://www.yourhrguy.com/2006/07/27/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-201 Well thought-out points and responses. I've found that it's up to every company to decide what type of employee it is looking for. I've worked with successful companies that don't mind job hoppers because they value the core knowledge of the individual regardless of longevity on the job. Other companies are looking for steady employees. I've noticed that companies that value the core skills and talents of their employees and help them grow and feel valued really don't need to worry as much about retention. A company dedicated to the growth and support of their employees can even turn a job hopper into a long-termer. Retention is frequently about how fulfilled people feel on the job. Regards, Guy Well thought-out points and responses. I’ve found that it’s up to every company to decide what type of employee it is looking for. I’ve worked with successful companies that don’t mind job hoppers because they value the core knowledge of the individual regardless of longevity on the job. Other companies are looking for steady employees.

I’ve noticed that companies that value the core skills and talents of their employees and help them grow and feel valued really don’t need to worry as much about retention. A company dedicated to the growth and support of their employees can even turn a job hopper into a long-termer. Retention is frequently about how fulfilled people feel on the job.

Regards,

Guy

]]> By: joe http://lancehaun.com/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-200 joe Tue, 23 Jun 2009 18:43:40 +0000 http://www.yourhrguy.com/2006/07/27/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-200 A human beings purpose is not to be a good investment. Nor is it meant to be any investment. I am not here to make any company better, if the company does not offer me something i want then why should i be there? Do you think I dream about the frustrations of working to make others rich in delight? Praise the job hopper. A human beings purpose is not to be a good investment. Nor is it meant to be any investment. I am not here to make any company better, if the company does not offer me something i want then why should i be there? Do you think I dream about the frustrations of working to make others rich in delight?

Praise the job hopper.

]]> By: RagingGuppy http://lancehaun.com/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-199 RagingGuppy Wed, 17 Jun 2009 00:56:23 +0000 http://www.yourhrguy.com/2006/07/27/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-199 I've worked for some of the biggest companies out there for longer then 3 years. I've witnessed attrition rates in those corporations larger then 100% in 6 months. When that happens there is usually a good reason why people leave. And its nothing to do with the fact that they are job hopping. I've witnessed supervisors harass employees after 2 years just because they they want them to leave so that the company can recoup their pension contributions. I've witnessed HR managers promote people just because they hang out in the smokers pit. I've witnessed supervisors get fired because they had a box fall on them at work and ended up going on workers comp. So I don't blame the job hoppers because they are looking for the best deal they can get given the really crummy circumstances. Don't judge people without getting to know them. You may be passing up really good people who will help your company get ahead. I’ve worked for some of the biggest companies out there for longer then 3 years. I’ve witnessed attrition rates in those corporations larger then 100% in 6 months. When that happens there is usually a good reason why people leave. And its nothing to do with the fact that they are job hopping. I’ve witnessed supervisors harass employees after 2 years just because they they want them to leave so that the company can recoup their pension contributions. I’ve witnessed HR managers promote people just because they hang out in the smokers pit. I’ve witnessed supervisors get fired because they had a box fall on them at work and ended up going on workers comp. So I don’t blame the job hoppers because they are looking for the best deal they can get given the really crummy circumstances. Don’t judge people without getting to know them. You may be passing up really good people who will help your company get ahead.

]]> By: Anony http://lancehaun.com/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-198 Anony Mon, 08 Jun 2009 18:09:50 +0000 http://www.yourhrguy.com/2006/07/27/why-i-still-dont-like-job-hoppers/#comment-198 True that. Employees wouldn't jump ship so easily if they weren't often treating like disposable units of labor in the first place. Sorry I'm not grovelling to work my whole life at a company just to make the CEO/investors rich while I try to feed mouths and keep a roof over my head. True that. Employees wouldn’t jump ship so easily if they weren’t often treating like disposable units of labor in the first place.

Sorry I’m not grovelling to work my whole life at a company just to make the CEO/investors rich while I try to feed mouths and keep a roof over my head.

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